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Monday, October 29, 2012

Ponzi Scheme: explanation using Virgin Gold member FB comment

Im a lurker on FB but somehow today post makes me pissed off with Virgin Gold Mining Corporation  AGAIN! Dont get confuse between virgin fucking gold mining corporation and Virgin company.

I was naive back than. I assume VGMC was a MLM scheme but after the Geneva Gold got busted, i finally understand that VGMC is actually a PONZI SCHEME!

Characteristic

1) detailed fabricated information
Just have alook at the website. Eversince i posted my blogpost on VGMC months ago, they never updated the website. Remains shady as usual. Truly unusual for a "high profile" international gold investment company to remain their website stagnant like that.

2)Typically extraordinary returns are promised on the investment 
          - "high-yield investment programs" ( return of investment upto 20% within one year!)

        -"offshore investment"
               "its an international business, not a local business, by means, it is a legit business" but what it    
                actually means is, it is an offshore business,you cant sue it
        - "hedge futures trading," ( you're among the lucky one to join this)

3) Hedge fund / Secretive and/or complex strategies
Privately open to certain people. usually they make a private gathering and try to convince you how legit the business is. MLM style!
reason: the more people know about this, the faster they are going to get caught red handed. better fool a few stupidos.

4) Initial high returns or reward.

Promoter will pay out high returns or rewards to attract more investors o.Other investors begin to participate, leading to a cascade effect. The "return" to the initial investors is paid out of the investments of new entrants, and not out of profits. (cth: read the instagram comment)

5) Minimize withdrawal in exchange for a higher returns

 Promoters also try to minimize withdrawals by offering new plans to investors where money is frozen for a longer period of time, in exchange for higher returns.
From this guy post, the money was frozen for investment to join the Stock exchange by next year.
-IPO Bursa saham. It aint easy to get your company public listed especially when your company is on the suruhanjaya sekurity malaysia
- NYSE ? seriously? hope your transparency, certs and auditors are legit enough to fool New York

6)High investment returns with little or no risk.
this guy is full of optimism. haish

Differences between ponzi scheme and MLM/ pyramid scheme



Unraveling of a Ponzi scheme 


When a Ponzi scheme is not stopped by the authorities, it sooner or later falls apart for one of the following reasons: ( copy paste from wikipedia)

1)The promoter vanishes, taking all the remaining investment money (minus payouts to investors already made).

2)Ponzi schemes tend to collapse when it becomes difficult to recruit new investors or when a large number of investors ask to cash out

3)External market forces, such as a sharp decline in the economy (for example, the Madoff investment scandal during the market downturn of 2008), cause many investors to withdraw part or all of their funds.




VGMC IS A SCAM. It has:

- no gold
- no gold mines
- no employees
- no trade memberships
- no investments
- no joint ventures
- no government licenses or permits
- no registration on any stock exchange
- no financial statements
- no private placement memoranda


If its a really good investment, the bank would be the first to invested all their money in it.
Btw, where the fuck can you get Thousand tans of gold to pay off a single investor?
They are basically paying off these investor with blank empty papers. Common sense bro.
And why do Bank give out loans for these unsuspected ponzi victim?
Its their job to give out LOANS! Every month they have a benchmark which require them to loan it off!

p/s: MLM/ ponzi victims are either unaware about this or just plain ignorant & egoist. BTW  they are so obsess with their product, they tend to act like a cult.


Sunday, January 1, 2012

From a Lost Blackberry Torch to a MLM Scam Scandal

My friend lost his brand new Blackberry Torch. He has been using it for less then 2 weeks. So I help him and did a little favor of tracing back his phone.

I want this phone too!

This was the last screenshot i manage to take before "the new user" deleted me off from bbm list.


BB has their own unique pin number so no matter what happen to the phone, it's unique number still remain to the rightful owner.

A week after being deleted, I added the BB pin again using another friend's BB . Luckily.. the new owner accept my request! At first, I thought the new user might be some unaware consumer who brought the phone from some illegal phone seller...


...until I clicked on the link... http://ik.my/fireyourbossin2012..... the link redirect to http://duitterpantas.blogspot.com/

OH GOD WHYYYYYY?! WHY should this new owner post such a phishing link?! Now im in doubt who he really was, a victim or a predator. I've quickly remove him from my BBM for own safety.

Easy money to live easy in life but rot for eternal in hell.

 I kept on reading the blog... hopefully that the new owner of the phone isn't what i hope for,a scam artist. Then I saw the same exact person  from the bbm picture with the one in the blog. !!
WTF?! OLD MAN?!

And on the blogpost, there was another link which redirect me to another link. And there's more picture of him having some fine Virgin Gold dinner at Ritz London. Neway, his name is Mohamed Nordin and
Virgin Gold is a MLM. Every MLM is a lie!

You'll get filthy rich !
 And also his phone number! or his bos phone number!!
0126014565 nah! your new Sugar Daddy Phone number



Neway you can always check suruhanjaya Sekuriti Malaysia to verify if it's  a scam or not.



The FUCK is wrong with you! Not only you're using a stolen blackberry phone, you also destroy other people life by tricking them into some Get Rich Scheme. OMG!!! Repent plz!
 Ive just posted a scam related entry a few days ago, and today I'm facing both thief (assuming he stole it!) and a scam agent (yes you are!)

oh no.. I dont know what to do...
I felt pity for my friend.. the victim..
He's currently offshore on a rig doing a honest work.
While his hard earn BlackBerry Torch fell into a hand of a totaly opposite person my friend is.
I'm sorry... this is the best that I can help you.

 Ashlar the Tree


p/s: fuu uuuuu!  maggot! !

Edit 1 (30/1/2012)
same phone number. Must be a black money laundering scheme.


I was bored today, so i google  back the phone number 012 601 4565 . it link me back to this website. And this other money making website . And a Facebook account. A facebook fan page with 900++ folower.

D: i just want the original phone user's justice

Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Loveletter to the 0358855100 Vigilant

Sorry for the late response, I rarely got time to check my blogger nowadays.


I'd like to thank Anonymous poster name "Puteri" regarding her comment on 03 58855100. You're using a throwaway ID so i cant find a way to contact you back.

old link post :
 Scammer 03 58855100 (Friday, December 2, 2011)
Scammer 03 58855100 that never quits (Wednesday, September 5, 2012)

Bare in mind, both post are dated over 2 years ago and this is a freaking blog post.
Let me redefine you the meaning of important term use here:


Which is basically a diary and an opinion expressed by the writer. I didnt signup to write this blog for reference or income . Infact, rule of the internet, once something posted on the internet, it will remain on the internet forever, thanks to copypasta.


For your clarification, the aggressiveness of 0358855100 caller bugged me. Well not only me, but a bunch of other people out there.(Just google yourself). For a person who is caution with the virtual world, the best assumption is to label them as Scam. You cant blame us for being caution. You should try and hear yourself how they sell themself. So pro, like a virtual MLM agent.Honest people are rare in this corrupted world and infinite bunch of greedy corporation out there sucking up every dollar and cent on sight.

Different people, different opinion and luck. Lets say you did fall for those sweet talker and it turns out to be legit, so good for you. Congratz, you got yourself a new credit card and insurans!! But you wont be lucky next time. There dozen of these pesky telemarketing outside who just cant wait to snatch your hard earn money. Oh, this suddenly reminded me of Geneva gold and Virgin gold. Untill now, victims are still holding on false hope getting their money back.

web popupad = 0358855100 telemarketing

So Puteri say that the number is Legit and im accusing it as a scam. So how far the truth lie in it?hmmmmmm....Read all this blog entery and judge yourself.
I don't even bother to call the Maybank sales rep. Why should I? Just to make another blogpost to clarify that its legit and admit that im wrong for labeling them as scam? Than i guess no. IF its legit, than MAYBANK itself is to blame.

Lets ASSUME it is legit: 

 Ive no grudge against Maybank as the whole company. It's a really great consumer bank by the way. Infact my uncle is one of Maybank manager somewhere in Johor. BUT Ive problem with your telemarketing ,Your marketing scheme SUCKASS. Of course its a good business tactic  by successfully  forcing customer into purchasing your product but the way you do it is exactly like how web popup ad work on the internet world. You approach them by building up confident on to the victim Congratulating them on being lucky to be the selected maybank customer, feed them with lavish infos, telling them this is a one time opportunity and eventually make the unwary victim to fall for it. Sweet talked them through as you subconsciously aggressively pressurized your victim. I could file a harassment lawsuit for this!



This is what they feed you. credit pic : jen

Dont you see theres a SCAM element in there?You dont even give enough time for the consume to think and evaluate. This is a perk in Telemarketing, You can feed them with all the sweet info and by the time they are hooked up they are also  bored of the TLDRness of the talk which make them end up being an impulse buyer. When clarity hit some sense into the victim brain, its already too late to turn back. Money has been drained and regret is all they got. YAY! Round applause to Maybank telemarketing department, for you have successfully fraud your victim into taking shitty product!Where the fuck is the Consumer Right in here? All I see is lust & greediness.

Its been 2 years since i was contacted by the number, but ive read alot of older post regarding to this number dated wayyy back from mine. I guess this is time for you change your marketing plan. How bout direct selling?  Putting up booth at the malls and get frustrated seeing potential customer running away avoiding the booth or worst, getting humiliated in public. LOL. I guess telemarketing is still a great option after all.

I'm highly aware of freedom of speech. Freedom of sharing. Freedom of human right and Consumer Right.
That is why i responded back to you Puteri and at the same time i clarify my stand for i'll be the small pillar in supporting other against the evil gluttony of the world.
Thank you for your concern.


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